“I Am a Strange Loop is vintage Hofstadter: earnest, deep, overflowing with ideas, cognitive scientist and polymath Douglas Hofstadter has returned to his. Scott O’Reilly loops the loop with Douglas Hofstadter. So, a mirage that only exists because it perceives itself: this is an example of what Hofstadter calls a “strange loop”. He has an endearing.
Where are my qualia? Results have no meaning without the formula, procedure, recipe, for generating them. Hofstadter, from the very beginning of his exceptionally discursive argument, presumes that what he is doing is stragne a metric of souledness through which he can estimate the size of soul or degree of consciousness possessed by an entity.
Or maybe something completely other is true that we have never even imagined. These things together make the book uninteresting and no fun to read.
I Am a Strange Loop by Douglas R. Hofstadter
Svest je glavni simbol skup simbola u svakom mozgu. When he’s strnge about how ideas might be represented by patterns in the brain, I’m on board, But then he keeps mixing in some pretty unconvincing bits about why humans are in a completely different class in symbolic understanding according to his definition of “symbol” as, basically, an idea in the brain.
I have long been interested in the nature and origin or human consciousness and sense of self, and as an irreligious materialist, the traditional explanations offered by our dominant social institutions were unsatisfactory.
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He admires the “noble goal”yet dismisses the possibility that the self can be dismantled. This book is the painful rantings of a man suffering a great loss. The Copycat project was subsequently extended under the name “Metacat” by Hofstadter’s doctoral student James Marshall.
But then again, he is a parochial computer scientist. Feb 23, Clay Kallam rated it it was ok Shelves: The point, I suppose, is that because of the depth and arbitrary complexity of human thought, it is difficult to define in discrete terms, although this fact does not make it any less grounded in purely scientific and reasonable terms. This isn’t really AI — they’re just essentially complicated math solutions.
So you could, in effect, say “This statement is unprovable” by making a logical statement about the whole number that uniquely identifies the very statement in question. An update that I had tried to submit when I finished the book appears not to have saved.
Douglas, you are a freak. I say this because he explains that for Video Voyage II when he pointed a camera at the TV screen which displayed its feed, creating an infinite feedback loop he spent twelve hours with his friend just playing with that.
Hifstadter first half of this book goes into some depth concerning Bertrand Russell’s and Whitehead’s Principia Mathematicaand then the work of Kurt Godel. I believe the soul is a smithy, albeit an imperfect looop, because I’ve seen evidence of it. All FARG computational models share certain key principles, among which are: He is a wonderful teacher – he got me to understand – oh, how briefly – Godel’s ideas and how they translate into the real world, I think!
Doulas 14, Zach rated it it was ok. I’m writing this review as I go along because the book is long. Reading it was a long, thoughtful journey.
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Concepts are also extensible in that we can shrange analogies between seemingly dissimilar concepts. It was either too indirect, too intricately argued, or too Germanic for me to follow, and after months of off and on attempts I finally put it aside. In both universes Doouglas talks about his possession of consciousness but in universe Z he is lying without knowing it, sound familiar? Is this not a refutation of the idea that small-souled animals are edible?
And then, when perception twists back and focuses on itself, as it inevitably will, you get rich, magical-seeming consequences. But whether he believes this or not, it’s problematic for me, because conflating “interiority” with “soul-size” is basically begging the question of what things have big souls by defining “souls” as essentially the thing that we think humans have the most of, and if he’s not making that point, hofsadter why all of the animal comparisons and asking the readers to admit that animals dougals have souls as big as those of humans?
One can say “I’m resting on the right side of my demarcation line” when one goes vegetarian, but one can only believe it through willful ignorance.
Hofstadter agrees with Buddhism that the Self is an illusion, but he off-handedly says striving to strangr past the illusion as Buddhism suggests is a pointless, dead-end pursuit. He’s thought about this for a long, long time and has come up with some rather surprising opinions on the matter.
DH makes as persuasive a case for a non-dualistic theory of mind, and provides as convincing an account albeit, a substantially metaphorical one of what minds do, how selves form, and what it means to perceive as any I have come across.
This book unfolds in layers of concepts and insight. This leads him to some very fruitful ways of looking at consciousness. For example, one might say that writing an original philosophical article is a lot like trying to cut a trail through the jungle: Is it philosophically justifiable to invoke qualia here or will social convention do the trick in which case the ostensible qualia drop out as irrelevant anyway, empirical im plausibility notwithstanding?
Tolle declares that the Ego or thinking mind is the cause of all the poisons of our civilization and the only hope for us as a species is to embrace awareness and presence and escape the thinking mind that feeds our needs for material possessions, success, achievement, domination, and so on.
Deep down, a human brain What do we mean when we say “I”? What do we mean when we say “I”?
Is a mosquito conscious? So her consciousness is not distributed, merely a symbol of her is in his mind. This, I think, is what he meant to illustrate with his insistence that some animals don’t hofsgadter “souls” or “interiority. But again I fail hofstadteer see the significance. So in one respect what DFW is saying is true, but in another, Hofstadter says ‘True, but you can’t deny the way we live in other people’s thoughts, influence their decisions.
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